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[fma]

Accident: Emirates A388 over Arabian Sea on Jan 7th 2017, wake turbulence sends business jet in uncontrolled descent
By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Mar 8th 2017 11:40Z, last updated Wednesday, Mar 8th 2017 21:00Z

An Emirates Airbus A380-800, most likely registration A6-EUL performing flight EK-412 from Dubai (United Arab Emirates) to Sydney,NS (Australia), was enroute at FL350 about 630nm southeast of Muscat (Oman) and about 820nm northwest of Male (Maldives) at about 08:40Z when a business jet passed underneath in opposite direction. The A380 continued the flight to Sydney without any apparent incident and landed safely.

The business jet, a MHS Aviation (Munich) Canadair Challenger 604 registration D-AMSC performing flight MHV-604 from Male (Maldives) to Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates) with 9 people on board, was enroute over the Arabian Sea when an Airbus A380-800 was observed by the crew passing 1000 feet above. After passing underneath the A380 at about 08:40Z the crew lost control of the aircraft as result of wake turbulence from the A380 and was able to regain control of the aircraft only after losing about 10,000 feet. The airframe experienced very high G-Loads during the upset, a number of occupants received injuries during the upset. After the crew managed to stabilize the aircraft the crew decided to divert to Muscat (Oman), entered Omani Airspace at 14:10L (10:10Z) declaring emergency and reporting injuries on board and continued for a landing in Muscat at 15:14L (11:14Z) without further incident. A number of occupants were taken to a hospital, one occupant was reported with serious injuries. The aircraft received damage beyond repair and was written off.

Oman's Civil Aviation Authority had told Omani media on Jan 8th 2017, that a private German registered aircraft had performed an emergency landing in Muscat on Jan 7th 2017 declaring emergency at 14:10L (10:10Z) and landing in Muscat at 15:14L (11:14Z). The crew had declared emergency due to injuries on board and problems with an engine (a number of media subsequently reported the right hand engine had failed, another number of media reported the left hand engine had failed).

According to information The Aviation Herald received on March 4th 2017 the CL-604 passed 1000 feet below an Airbus A380-800 while enroute over the Arabian Sea, when a short time later (1-2 minutes) the aircraft encountered wake turbulence sending the aircraft in uncontrolled roll turning the aircraft around at least 3 times (possibly even 5 times), both engines flamed out, the Ram Air Turbine could not deploy possibly as result of G-forces and structural stress, the aircraft lost about 10,000 feet until the crew was able to recover the aircraft exercising raw muscle force, restart the engines and divert to Muscat.

The Aviation Herald is currently unable to substantiate details of the occurrence, no radar data are available for the business jet, it is therefore unclear when the business jet departed from Male and where the actual "rendezvouz" with the A380 took place. Based on the known time of the occurrence at 08:40Z as well as the time when the CL-604 reached Omani Airspace declaring emergency and landed in Muscat, as well as which A380s were enroute over the Arabian Sea around that time The Aviation Herald believes the most likely A380 was EK-412 and the "rendezvouz" took place 630nm southeast of Muscat, which provides the best match of remaining flying time (2.5 hours) and distance for the CL-604 also considering rather strong northwesterly winds (headwind for the CL-604, tailwind for the A380s).

On Jan 7th 2017 there were also other A380-800s crossing the Arabian Sea from northwest to southeast: a Qantas A380-800, registration VH-OQJ performing flight QF-2 from Dubai to Sydney, was enroute at FL330 about 1000nm southeast of Muscat and about 400nm northwest of Male at 08:40Z. An Emirates A380-800 registration A6-EDO performing flight EK-406 from Dubai to Melbourne,VI (Australia) was enroute at FL350 about 470nm southeast of Muscat at 08:40Z. Another Emirates A380-800 registration A6-EUH performing flight EK-424 from Dubai to Perth,WA (Australia), was enroute at FL350 about 350nm southeast of Muscat at 08:40z.

The Aviation Herald received information that Air Traffic Control all around the globe have recently been instructed to exercise particular care with A380s crossing above other aircraft. The Aviation Herald had already reported a number of Wake Turbulence Encounters involving A380s before:

[Icing]

Ich mit meinem Schulenglisch...

Um Links zu sehen, bitte registrieren ist es einfacher Frank...

[MFO]

Da speibst aber a

[Comander]

Ich meine daß es ein Regel gibt nämlich die sich 3000m aus dem Weg zu gehen . Dies ist nicht Vorschrift aber in Pilotenkreisen eine gängige Praxis.
Das dem 380iger nichts passierte ist klar -dem Tanker der Lüfte

[Stryker]

Ups,
drei bis fünf Rollen zum Abfangen der Maschine ist schon hart.
Wenn du da nicht angeschnallt bist, kannst dir ja alles brechen, inclusive dem Frühstück vom Boardservice

[fma]

Zitat von Stryker

Ups,
drei bis fünf Rollen zum Abfangen der Maschine ist schon hart.
Wenn du da nicht angeschnallt bist, kannst dir ja alles brechen, inclusive dem Frühstück vom Boardservice

das war ja nur die Einstimmung, dann kam:

- Triebwerke aus
- Elektrik aus
- Hydraulik aus

- 3 km Höhenverlust zum Wiederstart der Triebwerke


VG

Frank

[bkj5]

Zitat von fma

das war ja nur die Einstimmung, dann kam:

- Triebwerke aus...

Sieht man´s wieder: was nutzen mehrere Motoren wenn sie alle stehen bleiben!! Einer reicht in 99% der Fälle und das restliche Prozent trifft mich hoffentlich nicht~

[Comander]

das ist schon krass bestimmt wird der Vorfall näher untersucht .
Im Übrigen fliege ich im Jahr ca 8x mit dem 380iger-da wo zB. übern Schwarzen Meer fast regelmäßig Turbulenzen auftreten ,lächelt die 380iger nur müde ,ein andermal als ich mit ner A300 drüberflog sich einer der sich schnell genug anschnallen konnte in eine einer anderen Sitzreihe geschleudert wurde.Wenn sich die Cabin Crew schon selber gegenseitig ansehen dann heißt das was . Für mich wieder die Bestätigung: runter kommen tun wir immer (irgendwie)

[OLKA]

Ich habe aufgeräumt und die Off-Topic-Beiträge entfernt.